How bad is the state of Kentucky HS football?
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ESPN blogger Chris Low takes a look here:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/8854/sec-teams-raid-the-state...
Compared to the rest of the country, not half bad. Compared to the rest of the southeast, awful. Save and I have mentioned hundreds of time that this is a major factor to UK's historical struggles, and it's laid out here to read.
On a more positive note, Kentucky looks to have a great crop of talent for 2011 and 2012,
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Permalink Reply by SaveUK on -
If the state of Kentucky had the football talent that Florida, Texas, Alabama, SC, Georgia, Mississippi, etc had
we be a power house football program.
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Permalink Reply by Stephen on -
And if a frog had wings he would not bump his butt on the ground when he hopped.
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Permalink Reply by ArmChair Capt on -
Interesting, but I have a question. Why? Is it the water? They are closer to the equator?
Seriously, what makes the other states better? It is a lack of focus on football vs basketball or baseball? Is it because we do not have good HS football coaches in KY? Could it be something in the administrative part of the KHSSA such as spring practices, length of season, mix of districts or even the "age" cutoff?
I can't imagine in the long terms our kids are worse or theirs are better. Can we identify "why" and what could we change or do different?
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Permalink Reply by kyfan32 on -
Anybody done any checking on to see what percentage of players actually play for their state school? Would be interesting to know. I was looking at FLA roster for the upcoming year and it is filled with homegrown boys. Perhaps in my spare time, lol I'll come up with stats there. I persoanlly thought was over blown until looking at the rosters....
Don't get me started with the talent issue.... To hear folks speak here it is the number one class....
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Permalink Reply by The Fake Dermontti Dawson on -
A couple of the issues IMO:
1: Basketball: Kids grow up dreaming of being the next Richie Farmer or Chuck Hayes, not Reggie Bush, Tim Tebow, Andre Johnson, etc. It is just a higher priority in our local society. I have personally seen three potentially 5* prospects give football up o play basketball (to be fair they did all receive college basketball scholarships)
2: Funding. Football is significantly more expensive than basketball because of insurance, equipment, travel, size of team, etc. Football costs a lot of cash, and lots of schools just can't pull the money. The more rural schools in scarcely populated areas really struggle to get funds for the pigskin.
3: Population. There is just not as big of a pool of players to choose from in Kentucky. Consider that Jacksonville, FL would be the largest city in the state of KY by over 50,000 people, but is only the fourth largest in Florida. The Atlanta metro has over three times the population of Lexington and Louisville combined, and that's just Atlanta.
There are some other factors IMO, that I won't post here, but I think these are the biggest three.
ArmChair Capt said:Interesting, but I have a question. Why? Is it the water? They are closer to the equator?
Seriously, what makes the other states better? It is a lack of focus on football vs basketball or baseball? Is it because we do not have good HS football coaches in KY? Could it be something in the administrative part of the KHSSA such as spring practices, length of season, mix of districts or even the "age" cutoff?
I can't imagine in the long terms our kids are worse or theirs are better. Can we identify "why" and what could we change or do different?
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Permalink Reply by Beau Gibson on -
We aren't exactly a Southern State, remember? We're kinda smack dab in the middle of everything. Maybe we should have our own league. From what I remember, HS football in KY is pretty darn entertaining. We are a basketball state, so I wouldn't expect to be creating prospects like TX or Florida. You also have to think about population numbers in the areas involved. It does make a difference, I think.
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Permalink Reply by Beau Gibson on
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Just saw your post HOF. Glad to know great minds think alike! :)
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Permalink Reply by Beau Gibson on
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we don't feed our kids enough corn
ArmChair Capt said:Interesting, but I have a question. Why? Is it the water? They are closer to the equator?
Seriously, what makes the other states better? It is a lack of focus on football vs basketball or baseball? Is it because we do not have good HS football coaches in KY? Could it be something in the administrative part of the KHSSA such as spring practices, length of season, mix of districts or even the "age" cutoff?
I can't imagine in the long terms our kids are worse or theirs are better. Can we identify "why" and what could we change or do different?
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Permalink Reply by SaveUK on
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The #s I'm about to show don't include seniors from last years teams. I counted real fast so #s might be off a few, give or take, but it gives you a real good idea
State of Alabama
Bama
54 Players on the roster that could return next year from Alabama
9 players in their 2010 class from Alabama
2 players from Alabama already committed for 2011
Auburn
43 Players on the roster that could return next year from the state of Alabama
9 players in their 2010 class from the state
That isn't including all the State kids that went out of state to play
State of Texas
Texas
73 - players from the state of Texas that could return next year. something like 5 players on their roster last year were from out of state.
22 out of a 25 2010 class were from the state of Texas
Texas A&M
65 players that could return from the state of Texas
18 players from Texas signed with their 2010 class
Texas Tech
35 players on their current roster that can return next season are from the state of Texas
This doesn't include TCU and other schools in Texas but the numbers are about the same.
you already know about the Florida Universities.
Pretty much the same with Ohio and OSU
WV and WVU
Califorina and UCLA/USC/etc
About 85% of UGA's roster is from Georgia
SC about the same
kyfan32 said:Anybody done any checking on to see what percentage of players actually play for their state school? Would be interesting to know. I was looking at FLA roster for the upcoming year and it is filled with homegrown boys. Perhaps in my spare time, lol I'll come up with stats there. I persoanlly thought was over blown until looking at the rosters....
Don't get me started with the talent issue.... To hear folks speak here it is the number one class....
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Permalink Reply by SaveUK on
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How important is it to have a lot of quality in-state talent?
The State of KY has some really good talent in 2011 and guess what? 2010 just got finished and UK already has two in-state committments, on the verge of two more really good ones.
Louisville has, I think 4 really good looking 2011 in-state committments.
2010 class we were waiting a long time before we got committments, why? we didn't have the in-state talent, if we had, we would have had 2010 commitments really early in the process.
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Permalink Reply by SaveUK on
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Think about how great UK is at recruiting in Basketball. Now think about how better recruiting would be if the state produced at least 4 - five stars, 5- four stars players each year. recruiting be even that much easier for UK bball and we would always have quality depth from top to bottom much like a Texas has a lot of quality talent (eventhough they can't win with it...LOL). For example it be a lot easier for UK bball to get two 5 star players at the same position in the same class if one of them were from the state of kentucky.
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